Message-ID: <62265asstr$1343135403@assm.asstr-mirror.org> X-Original-To: ckought69@hotmail.com Delivered-To: ckought69@hotmail.com Delivered-To: alt-sex-stories-moderated@moderators.isc.org X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-authentication-warning:to:path:from:newsgroups:subject:date :organization:lines:message-id:nntp-posting-host:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-trace:x-complaints-to :nntp-posting-date:complaints-to:injection-info:user-agent :x-gm-message-state; bh=1OCL9QvjXH9GadvhjZcIkbIKKl7UXOGk6bIFY2JNV/M=; b=DwCIrNQkskAI40FpK/vy396igAyN19KX4ycI4yi5TUGuXNlQMQizz0xp6mdfVfDpqP rBU3YeVJibFvx7ONzT5WQHTuiyVmWtAbiEtGfqzflSDQxSlFYUSM1MEbLKq+32QCklLv G4QGpYUzaqyIKXShp9qnAX+Zo184aH5dmVLrTKY/o8m+2bSiOudfLdobqwF0wJMxgBPM b+hBCNLiYVRQ7609i2Ica2otlHXLlCz8Av4ujapg5axLCgIOLor0ehkxjtQqOlEQpe4t SHJ37NxCq0EgHCyBLGD19En4+ioAwcKhJvrBNb2YlR0p24gLaZAsZY+V/yrY6sYZbBvq eXeA== X-Original-Path: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: cobillard@hotmail.com X-Original-Message-ID: <00fc791e-7592-4796-ad8e-2a2d80b9f290@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=108.61.81.73; posting-account=Fq7-_wkAAAAgyeP1zD5Zkzgq4q4sM0aR User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkVqm+6jY2ORVZVefW0eu6KsyTPm6ieK+Aaw2vhz75XdmUtZ/QiWDljpjMb0EkGssAuWClq6kRvAO1ohx+/4UWL8ASqA40PP0EX24FcX69xANMPQBWQpLSWH9P9FFPCsyE4NEPyK1K+qpGahbvzGS1iuSggX7VI6KRdcXxbuaksWByArIt37zU2zdrC+AEfUtYlBtvnOOlyh02cVedOZ9JSUWlQYw== X-ASSTR-Original-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: {ASSM} A letter to "M" about my 15th birthday party Lines: 503 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:10:03 -0400 Path: assm.asstr-mirror.org!not-for-mail Approved: <assm@asstr-mirror.org> Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.moderated,alt.sex.stories Followup-To: alt.sex.stories.d X-Archived-At: <URL:http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/Year2012/62265> X-Moderator-Contact: ASSTR ASSM moderation <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Story-Submission: <ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Moderator-ID: dennyw, RuiJorge While writing a book about the sex cult at Mom's Friend's House in the 1990s as a follow-up to essays published here in the past and tentatively entitled "A Penis is a Girl's Best Friend" I found a draft letter from me to "M." I've edited it for clarity and, a bit, for style. It says a lot about the sex life of a 15-year-old girl or boy at Mom's Friend's House, a commune set up by young mothers who fled the Children of God to protect their children from "sex abuse" by adults--all the while arguing that sex at puberty is part and parcel of religion. "Shared" sex with successive same-age partners (boy and girl had to be within 10% of each other's age) in front of family and friends was seen as "witnessing" for Jesus. Semen as Host of Holy Communion, ejaculation a sacred act. The origins of such beliefs can be found piecemeal in the teachings of David Berg ("Father David" or "Moses David"), a preacher of part-Jewish ancestry (but himself virulently anti-semitic) and a former member of the Christian and Missionary Alliance. In his later years it is said that he became a pervert and child sex abuser. There are several Web sites maintained by and for survivors of his cult, notably http://xfamily.org But Mom's Friend's House was different. Under today's laws the failure of knowing parents (i.e. mothers since almost all the resident members were single moms) to put a stop to sex even between consenting, same-age under-age children could have severe legal consequences. The era of 1960s free-sex communes that Mom's Friend sought to emulate is over. But as it happens, and just like David Berg, Mom's Friend managed to co-opt those who mattered politically. Her commune closed down as much for economic reasons as out of fear of the law: the financial crisis wiped out much of the subsidy she got from a trust fund her parents had set up when she joined the CoG; the real estate crash wiped out much of her home equity. Predictably, members of her commune went underground; I am sure the adolescents continue to have sex, now restrained only by time and distance. One hopes they still follow Mom's Friend's Rules, regulations that kept her teens safe for two decades. http://www.scribd.com/doc/20600564/ What to the outside world is promiscuity and child sex abuse to others with a certain religious vision, like the Children of God and to Mom's Friend is obedience to Divine Law. Mom's Friend, like her mentor David Berg, deemed sex to be part and parcel of evangelical Christianity. The Family International, successors to the CoG still exists in a truncated way. It denies that it still adheres to that vision but nobody really knows. Mom's Friend's House closed a decade ago. But there inevitably remain hidden in society subcultures that follow the same theme: unrestrained orgasm is a divine reward, an acknowledgment of faith and salvation. Fundamentalist Mormons (Warren Jeffs' church) hold to that theme in a different way. At least Mom's Friend supervised her adolescents, protecting them from abuse by adults--a constant theme among cults, whether led by Jim Jones, David Koresh, David Berg or any other cult leader. For Mom's Friend, "feminism" meant female management of sex, and a "right to pursue orgasm" by every female. For her, oral sex was obligatory foreplay, and this acknowledged that many girls and women can only achieve orgasm via cunnilingus. One wonders whether any of the other sex cult gurus concerned themselves with girls' and women's orgasms, with the pursuit of orgasm as a right. And a health issue: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199132/NHS-recommends-pu pils-orgasm-day-reduce-risk-heart-attack-stroke.html My 1995 letter to a friend should be read in that context. January 15, 1995 Dear M. Sorry you missed my 15th [birthday party]. You would have had fun. S. and O[lder] G[irl] organized it. Two of the boys you know from the House. The other 3 came from elsewhere. Read on. Almost right away after all the boys had arrived we all got undressed and showered together, a good way to get to know one another as you are well aware. The other girls looked at faces, I looked at penises and found one I liked. I arranged to have him assigned to me once O.G. calculated the age difference was under 10%. Why him you ask? The answer is in what you always called my "penis diary". I wrote it down. K's penis was (and I suppose still is, but what do I know) one of those wider at the tip than at the base, and the tip was very round, not mushroomy flat and not conical. And K was not, except for his pubic hair, hairy. I wanted to kiss that penis. I wanted to see it erect. As the birthday girl I felt I had a right to do anything I wanted. I started my party early and sidled up to K., into his "personal space" as Mom calls it, so neither he nor his penis could ignore my boobs. He responded by kissing me, and then his hands were on my boobs and the others were watching us. I felt his penis, and I felt it get stiff. But it wasn't yet sex time so I didn't let things get too far. (How long did it take you to get used to boys staring at your boobs instead of looking you in the eyes when talking to you? Did you do what I do, stare at the guy's penis in response? That was my way of breaking the ice with boys at the houseboat. Take off my top and make them take off their shorts. I considered it a great victory to be the first girl to see and play with a boy's virgin penis. And to give an orgasm to a boy who never had one and hardly knew what it meant I was doing the work of Jesus Himself. Imagine a boy who's never seen semen ejaculating some just for me! And then there were those boys I walked away from and sent off the boat because they weren't circumcised. It must have been hard for them. But I wasn't having an uncircumcised penis in my mouth any more than you would. Then there were the times Mom walked in on us scaring the boy out of his wits, and sometimes his erection. But she always smoothed things over, congratulating the boy on his "gorgeous penis" and giving me oral sex "advice".) By then the showering was finished so we dried off and then the boys didn't know what to do with the wet towels and had to be shown the hampers. You'd think they could find such things on their own. Only one of the boys was young enough to qualify for L. That left 3 boys and 3 girls to figure out who belonged with whom. Not my problem. If O.G. was going to be the chaperone let her worry. Her and her mom [Mom's Friend]. I remember that for your birthday there was a pool party. But January isn't exactly pool weather and so things were reversed, and our promenade would be an after-sex thing. We did have a barbecue but only because T[errific] G[irl]'s dad was around and was willing to cook outside for us. She did the serving, which was nice. Especially since she wasn't part of the party. Still, as a nude 13-year-old she was popular and I could see that all the boys lusted after her. Maybe it was her reputation as oral sex queen, or maybe not: I don't think her reputation got that far. More likely her boobs and her posture which, K. said, "let the cat out of the bag", whatever that means in the context. Very probably T.G., tactless as she is, said something about penises, semen and her dad and M[om's] F[riend], maybe even in that order. But nude waitresses always attract attention, don't they, and their nudity speaks. Especially hers. She is, in terms of sex, like a converted Catholic who can't stop talking about her new life and about orgasms and semen and Jesus. And her latest penis. I suppose the boys were happy to listen, and just ignore the Jesus part. I'm not sure how much "sharing" and "witnessing" are native to boys who didn't grow up under M.F. and whose folks just happen to know us because of their free-sex philosophy. K. had an evangelical history with his coming out [i.e., losing his virginity] but I don't think the others did. T.G.'s tactlessness could be useful. Remember that hoity-toity boy who seemed to think that he was doing us a favor by letting us have oral sex with him? T.G. blurted out that if it wasn't for his mom's "freewill gifts and offerings" to M.F. he wouldn't be there. M.F. took in a lot of needy single moms of girls who escaped from the CoG but others had to contribute. As I discovered, K. had come to sex at 14 when his parents had a like-minded couple over and their 14-y.o. daughter was put to bed with him. It seems that in their lifestyle that's the way one comes out. A weekend in bed with another teen and it's taken for granted that there will be sex. Well why not? Blood on the sheets? A Night of Defloration? Presumably there is Depo Provera or the Pill, but that was something K. had no idea about. All K. could say was that before he knew it his penis was in the girl's vagina and she started to cry but all of a sudden stopped and decided she was glad. In the morning both sets of parents were excited. The kids came down to breakfast in their bathrobes as they weren't wearing nightclothes. The two mom's got them to open their robes and show off their sex parts. The girl got embarrassed and there were tears, and the boy had to console her and all of a sudden he had an erection again and he couldn't stop himself and they wound up having sex again in front of the parents. Which was probably the point: witnessing with sex in front of friends and family. To draw them closer to Jesus. T.G.'s dad brought over barbecued chicken, and there was salad. Aside from that there was bread, ice cream and cupcakes. Mine had a candle. (He affected not to stare later on when we were having sex, but as Mom's Friend always said--even in relation to him, her longtime bf--men can't be trusted in anything relating to sex. Anyway I saw he had a sort-of erection, and later we saw him and Mom's Friend making love so something must have aroused him. And while her parents were doing that, T.G. herself was fussing with some boy's penis. Isn't she always?) Over the course of the lunch we heard everybody's coming-out story. My "accident" at age 11½. The coming-out parties of 3 of the girls. F., who, to hear of her life at the Children of God had never been a virgin at all. (The CoG's notoriety about child sex abuse was anyway what made Mom and Mom's Friend get out of there with their own babies, as you must know.) And among the boys other than K. two who were seduced by "older women" as soon as their penises were judged "sexy" and one who Mom's Friend had recruited for a coming-out party last year where the girl's mom wanted a virgin. He described the whole event and then asked me, since I was the party girl, if that was the "protocol for today" as well since he knew from the couple of nude dance parties he'd been to that we "always started off nude parties with a sex show". I told him it wasn't a "show" but a "celebration" and a sharing and witnessing. For Jesus no less. And, irrelevantly, that only circumcised Christian boys need apply. Then I rubbed K's penis for emphasis. And was surprised how quickly it sprang to erection. O.G., still chaperoning, said it looked as if the party was starting. I took K. over to the "dais" [where a gym mat lies on a platform for sex]. We sat on a lounger next to the mat and exchanged kisses and his hands gravitated to my boobs. It was obvious he wasn't from the House since the kissing and fondling went on a long time; if Mom's Friend's Rules were literally applied, his long-time stroking of my vagina and clitoris might have been criticized as "masturbation". But it felt nice and nobody was complaining. I put a stop to it by playing with his penis and then when I decided the girls--and I too--were getting bored with what Mom once called "peripheral promises" I slid down to the floor and put his penis in my mouth. I was using my tongue to play with its shape and often taking the penis out of my mouth to admire it and lick its head and show it off to the other girls. After about 5 minutes O.G. stepped in and whispered in my ear, but in a way that everybody could hear, that it was orgasm time for me. What she meant--and my girlfriends and I knew that--was that this wasn't one of "our" boys and if I allowed him to ejaculate in my mouth he might never be eager to kiss my clitoris and vagina to orgasm stage and maybe even his penis wouldn't be stiff enough for vaginal intercourse. So she told us to change places and, when it was apparent he'd never done it before, gave him a lesson in cunnilingus. At that point M.F. came in to wish me a happy birthday, said she was sorry to interrupt and then belied that by giving a short homily on how a girl's kissing fest with a penis can promote feminism if it makes the boy reciprocate by putting his tongue in her vagina and giving her the orgasm she might not get with just his penis there. One of the visiting boys had instinctively covered his penis with his hand when M.F., who can be intimidating, had come in the room. She told him to take his hand away, for "an erection shows the presence of Jesus", sex and orgasm are instruments of evangelization and salvation, semen the "body and blood of Christ." And "What a lovely erection you have! Your mom must be very proud of you." Then she said something about feminism and oral sex--stuff you've heard many times. When M.F. had left I did my best to rush things, thinking sexy thoughts and all the rest, and managed to reach orgasm in 10 minutes at most. I saw K. was glad of that and I hardly needed to prompt him to move up and put his penis in my vagina. He found it uncomfortable doing this over the edge of the lounger so I stretched out on top of it, with my legs alternately over the side and then raised. Everybody could see his penis. It couldn't have been longer than 6 inches and it fell out of my vagina several times; I guided it back in each time. He ejaculated and I stayed in position for a minute or so until semen leaked out of my vagina. I gathered it up to taste and wanted some more so I took his penis into my mouth and squeezed out what I could. You know how nice it is to have a penis go into your vagina just at the peak of an oral-sex orgasm. When he came after 5 minutes or so I was still delirious. There is nothing like reinforcing an oral-sex orgasm with penis-in-vagina, and when you feel the ejaculation you just know Jesus is with you. Right away it was a free for all, starting with all four girls kneeling, each with a penis in her mouth. And ending with semen in mouth, semen in vagina, semen on boobs and/or semen on faces. L.E. was the most aggressive with his penis, making a drama of his penis sliding into R's vagina after he'd kissed it up orgasm-wise. But you could have guessed that, I think, since it was his penis that presided over your coming out. Once it was out of R.'s vagina she had to take it in her mouth--there was semen dripping out of it and "semen mustn't be wasted", right? R. was originally going to make love to one of the visiting boys but she was having her period and mentioned it; L.E. of course didn't mind but unsurprisingly the visiting boy would have. The rest of the afternoon R. would be prancing around with dried semen on her cheeks and her boobs and her pubic hair. A celebration of making love, and especially sexy I think when like R. a girl has attractive breasts, substantial but not unwieldy, nipples not too big nor too small. The boys visiting from out of town were unused to our notion of semen as sacred, semen-in-mouth as sacrament. Penis in mouth was something they knew, even vaginal kissing. But the extended oral sex that we do was new to them. And as O.G. surmised, it took the promise of orgasm for my boy to put his tongue into my vagina and keep it there, and to kiss and lick my clitoris to the orgasm stage. That said, a good time was had by all. But at the end of the day K., not knowing the Rules, got quite befuddled when S. sidled up to him and whispered "I just LOVE your penis. Let's share orgasms tomorrow." K. looked at me puzzled and I had to tell him I'd had my orgasmic birthday present and sharing was part and parcel of our lives. Also that we never had sex alone, always witnessing. I patted his penis for emphasis and walked away; I think he was crushed, naively expecting some kind of ongoing relationship with me that wasn't to be. Outsiders don't always understand that our "commitment" is to Jesus and not to our partner of the day, that for us the penis is Jesus's instrument of love and of faith, semen the proof of them and orgasm our reward for taking Jesus into our souls. (Just so: the next day I watched from up close as K.'s gorgeous penis filled S.'s mouth with semen which she worked hard collecting before swallowing. I nodded to her and she licked more semen from the penis before leaning back, spreading her legs, and guiding K.'s face to her vagina.) Of all of us I think D. put on the best show, if that's what you can call it. She made R.B.'s penis ejaculate right between her lips and then opened her mouth with the head of his penis covered in semen, and more semen dripping from her lips. She then sucked it all, or most all, back into her mouth to swallow. There were still bits on her boobs and her chin when R.B. moved down and began to kiss her 'gina. There was no penis-in-vagina as far as I saw. D. said she had the best orgasm ever. But then a girl's best orgasm is always the one she just had, isn't it? I should mention that like you D. moved her lips extra-slow over head of the penis, teasing the boy, almost challenging the penis to ejaculate for her. T.G. does that too. I'm less successful in resisting a boy's impulse to move his own penis back and forth in response to the resulting urgent sexual "itch". T.G. says she gets a lot more semen out of a boy the longer she can postpone his ejaculation and the more the better. Just about the time that R.B. ejaculated for D. my Mom walked in to see how I was getting on. She watched that bit of theater with some amusement. What could she do but smile? After all there isn't anybody who hasn't seen her antics with penises. Licking semen and treating it as Host of Holy Communion. Whatever I know of sex I learned from her. I grew up seeing penises making Mom happy and once I came out she's been watching me. It wasn't for nothing that Mom was a flirty-fishing lobbyist. She still does that with any politician important enough to help. Mom took some of the gloss off the event though when she nagged us to "clean up after yourselves". We have a new cleaner, an old lady from Macedonia (or is it Montenegro? Starts with an M anyway) who speaks no known language and is not fazed by sex. M.F. seems not to want to give her too much work for fear she'll quit. I suspect her real function is to see that the sex is voluntary and that the Same-Age Rule is obeyed and our sex is "legal". She's inscrutable: I'm always wondering what she's thinking. Mom says that maybe in her old country she was a spy for the Communist Party. J. came out the other day. T.G. did the honors. Mom's Friend saw him naked and just told him it was time: "You've got pubic hair so you need orgasms" was more or less what she said. What she really meant was, I'm sure, that with his penis growing she was worried he'd start masturbating if he didn't have regular sex. Onan, spilled seed and all that. (Rev. X said recently it's not Onan at all, that M.F. is wrong, that the masturbation prohibition is from Leviticus, but never mind. It's still a House rule.) He's only 12 and T.G. was within the Same Age Rule, so it was she who got to play with his penis first. T.G. said there was some semen and it was "nice". I didn't see the event, more's the pity, but I did see him one time with his penis in another girl's mouth. It was a girl his mom had found for him somewhere. They said she was 13 but she looked 11, except that she too had pubic hair, enough to make her vulva "attractive" in a Mom's Friend's House sense. And boobs, sort of: eye-candy for a 12-year-old boy I imagine. You'll remember we talked about there being not much M.F. could do about pre-pubescent boys who chose to masturbate in private, except to wait until they started puberty and then having them come out right away, knowing that intercourse would pre-empt masturbation. Of course I can't deny that I spent a lot of time with growing penises during my houseboat year. Seducing, but that's another story. Mom (as M.F. did later) had said that as long as a boy has some pubic hair it doesn't matter how big or small is penis is, nor how much semen he ejaculates. It's the orgasm itself that counts. The trouble with that theory is that the more semen that comes out the longer the orgasm lasts. If that weren't so boys wouldn't be so glad when I tease their penises, pause occasionally mouthing the penis, change my pace and otherwise delay their orgasms and increase the volume of their ejaculations. When T.G. was 13 and targeted 12-year-old boys the whole thing came back to me: I loved watching her. And of course once a boy had his first orgasm with her he would become very needy for more, whether with her or any of the other eligible girls. I have to say, though, that seduction was easier for T.G. than for me since being nude was normal at the House, but I had to seduce boys while wearing clothes. And invariably she had boys' mothers supporting her effort--at the House it seems every mom wanted to see her boy making love. There's a special, if subtle, relationship between a mom and her boy's penis.) When you get back to [Our Town] they want you to do a demo at the next nude dance party. Maybe I can get K. and you together. I think by now he's been properly trained to respect a sex-mad Christian girl's wants and needs. The only issue is to get him here since he doesn't have a driving license. I can't wait to see you with his penis in your mouth, your boobs moving in synch with his balls. Remember how it was with the other boy (who was it anyway, I forget) when you were on the dais at the dance? You forgot to switch the penis from mouth to vagina before ejaculation and semen spurted into your mouth and then ran out your lips, down your chin, on your boobs and thighs and you had to catch it with your hand and stuff it back in your mouth. The boys watching were hypnotized to the point of stopping whatever they were doing to their own girls. How many offers of dates did you get as a result of that? Before I forget: L.L. announced she is pregnant. A Jesus baby. I think she did it on purpose. Anyway she's 17, so it's legal. She'll graduate on time she says, and then take it from there. She was going to go to community college (who of us can afford anything else?), maybe she still can. There are plenty of babysitters among us. One of the girls in my class in school is pregnant too and nobody even knew she wasn't a virgin. Nobody knows who the father is, not even her, apparently. If she does she won't say. Maybe I should bring her to one of our parties. If she'll come. Some boys like sex with pregnant girls. I bet she's never had a real orgasm, and we can help that. She and L.L. could have sex in parallel--it would make a neat image, the two of them first with penises moving in vagina and then with semen running out of their vaginas. S.S. told me he desperately needed to show you something. I told him I was sure you'd seen and cuddled it before. In fact I know you have. He only smirked and said maybe I'd like to play with it instead. Or in addition. I told him I was committed for next Saturday's dance but if he was especially nice, someday soon. I ended with the usual noncommittal "I like your penis, but ..." My reservations over S.S. are the same as yours: his arrogance when he stands in front of a girl holding erect penis between thumb and forefinger silently expecting her to lean over or kneel down and put her lips around it. There was a lot of chatter about sitting on a boy's face. I guess someone was listening to Kinky Friedman. That is, you'll remember, something we did at my birthday party last year. It's great because you can direct the boy's tongue exactly where it ought to be to give the most pleasure. I don't know about you, but I found changing places so the boy sat on my boobs and moved his penis back and forth in my mouth until he ejaculated (what M.F., who knows all this stuff, calls "irrumatio") to be almost as much fun. In fact, I don't know about you but having the boy's penis right in front of me, his balls lodged on my boobs, seeing and feeling his penis sliding in and out of my mouth, gave me such a fantastic feeling of importance, of holiness, of femininity, of sexiness, of delight. With each thrust I felt closer to Jesus, right up until the semen came and Jesus's DNA poured into my mouth. When the penis finally left my mouth I felt a twinge of regret, I had come to love it so, just as I love Jesus. Do you remember how the boy's mom, who'd been watching, came over and kissed me on the cheek afterwards? She said she was absolutely sure he'd never had an orgasm so "magnificent". The boy's semen came in an endless series of spurts. Mom long ago told me never to stop running my lips against a penis until the semen has stopped. But of course with the boy doing the movement that's not a problem, he just kept the penis in motion until he was finished. Then I wiped off the penis with my lips, the boy stood up and I struggled to swallow it all. I remember looking over at you at the time, but your boy's penis was still in motion and the next time I looked it was all over and you were just wiping your mouth with your hand. But do you remember how N. had braces and the semen stuck to them even after she tried to swallow it all; it looked really odd. Later we all compared notes on any bits of semen on our bodies would give away what we'd done. I think all the boys were in post-orgasmic trances! Finally: I think K. was my 40th penis! I can't be certain because I didn't start my diary until I was 12, but working back I think that's how many I've made love to. That's 40 different boys for Jesus, and maybe 400 orgasms in all. M.F. says we could aim at 20,000 orgasms in a lifetime. I've got a long way to go and will have to make love more often to have a hope of getting there. (Mom says she wouldn't be surprised if, counting all the boys at the houseboat when I was busy seducing pubescent penises, I've closer to 50 lovers. But should I count a penis that was only in my mouth, never in my vagina? I've always thought a girl was still a virgin no matter how many penises she's had in her mouth, no matter how much semen she's swallowed, if her hymen is still intact.) Be sure to get back to us with your latest penis stories! Do tell us about the sharing and witnessing you've seen and done, all the 'gina kissing you've had! I know you aren't as fanatical about semen as some of the girls, me for example. But you surely have a precious story or two to tell. Love and xxx, Carol ------- ASSM Moderation System Notice-------- This post has been reformatted by the ASSM Moderation Team due to inadequate formatting. -- Pursuant to the Berne Convention, this work is copyright with all rights reserved by its author unless explicitly indicated. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | alt.sex.stories.moderated ------ send stories to: <ckought69@hotmail.com>| | FAQ: <http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/faq.html> Moderators: <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |ASSM Archive at <http://assm.asstr-mirror.org> Hosted by <http://www.asstr-mirror.org> | |Discuss this story and others in alt.sex.stories.d; look for subject {ASSD}| +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+