Message-ID: <49232asstr$1095646202@assm.asstr-mirror.org> Return-Path: <cobillard@hotmail.com> X-Original-To: ckought69@hotmail.com Delivered-To: ckought69@hotmail.com X-Originating-Email: [cobillard@hotmail.com] User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 From: Carol <cobillard@hotmail.com> X-Original-Message-ID: <BD736B15.213E7%cobillard@hotmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2004 15:58:00.0822 (UTC) FILETIME=[7069E160:01C49E61] X-ASSTR-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:57:57 +0100 Subject: {ASSM} "How the other half lives": religious asexuality ... and sex Lines: 237 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:10:02 -0400 Path: assm.asstr-mirror.org!not-for-mail Approved: <assm@asstr-mirror.org> Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.moderated,alt.sex.stories Followup-To: alt.sex.stories.d X-Archived-At: <URL:http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/Year2004/49232> X-Moderator-Contact: ASSTR ASSM moderation <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Story-Submission: <ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Moderator-ID: dennyw, newsman I received the following letter some time ago from a woman in Chicago whose husband in Iraq had sent it to her, referring to my own sexually-positive childhood background and demanding anonymity. I've made some stylistic corrections, and otherwise post it without comment, other than saying it shows how the "other half" lives, and what comes of keeping kids in submission and ignorance, sexually-speaking. ------ "I started masturbating at age 11-1/2. Actually, I'd been playing with myself from time to time for over a year, but just to the degree of tickling my penis underneath the crown and making it stiff. I knew that somehow the penis was supposed to slide into a girl somewhere. But I didn't know how, or where exactly. Our family were members of a fundamentalist sect, the Church of the Nazarene. It wasn't only sex that was never discussed in our house: we discussed virtually nothing that could not be dealt with in a way that related to the life and works of Jesus Christ our Lord, or to the Bible. There was no dancing, card playing, movies (actually, the Church eventually came to accept movies, but our parents never did; we didn't even have television), popular music (we had lots of Christian music) or fun. Sex was dirty, sinful and only for the procreation of children and only in holy matrimony. Bride and groom must be virgins; or at least presumed to be virgins since they had probably taken a public vow of premarital chastity. We went to a Christian school that left me equally ignorant about sex, beyond learning that abstinence before marriage, and indeed total ignorance before marriage, was the Christian way. "Somehow, though, around the age I have mentioned, the obvious either occurred to me or I overheard in a conversation of older boys: Vaseline would solve the friction problem. Immediately I managed to buy a small jar of Vaseline, and I had my first orgasm. Since I was still showing no signs of puberty, there was no semen. But I felt the rush of ecstatic joy, or whatever you call it, just the same. And from then on I masturbated at least once, sometimes twice, a day. "My discovery was so monumental that I couldn't keep it a secret. Yet I couldn't talk about sex, or indeed about my penis, to anyone in my family. And certainly not to anyone at school. Except one person. I had a special relationship with my cousin, a couple of months older than I. She lived in the same rural city and we were in the same class and our families were together a lot. Somehow she had become my only confidante, and I told her. "I had expected to be given a lecture on my religious duty of chastity, but that's not at all what she said. She was just as ignorant as I about sex and sexual organs, and she wanted to see me do it. Now that I am a decade older I realize how bizarre this reaction was, compared to what might have been expected from an ordinary, "normal" 12-year-old Christian girl. I can only say that religious suppression of the curiosity, and perhaps the drives, of pubescent boys and girls can have different reactions on different kids. The fact that I was far closer to her than to my sisters, and that she was something of a tomboy, must have had something to do with it. "Accomplishing the exhibitionist demonstration wasn't as easy as you might imagine since I was not allowed to have my bedroom door closed unless I was dressing, and my older sisters were spies for my parents on my comings and goings and doings. Within a day or two, though, we managed some privacy in the garden shed of my cousin's house, and I pulled down my pants and fondled my penis to make it hard enough to masturbate for her. She wondered whether she could attain the same level of pleasure from rubbing herself, and of course I didn't know. She pulled down her pants and her panties and began to rub herself, and in due course she made herself feel good. Our mutual display was totally asexual. As I said, my arousal was physical only. Looking at my cousin's pussy, and her looking at my crotch, aroused neither of us. We just were trying a scientific experiment, and found the result so pleasurable that we'd be doing it again, and again. And again, for years to come. "We talked and wondered about the mysterious sensation of orgasm (we didn't even know the word) over the next few days and weeks. In due course my cousin urgently wanted to see my penis again. We masturbated alone or together simultaneously or in sequence hundreds of times after that, whenever we could find a safe, private place. "Eventually the next obvious step occurred to one of us: what if we masturbated each other. We tried it once, and it felt even better to have the other doing the work and the recipient just concentrating on trying to catch the train to orgasm. My cousin got quite good at handling my ("cute", she said, although happily she never otherwise commented on its immaturity) penis, such as it was, and I learned about her clitoris and, finally, about her vagina. At that time, my cousin still had only the rudiments of breasts, little bumps, but she had started to develop and was more sexually aware than I. As far as I was concerned, masturbating was a bodily function like any other, one that made me feel good but had no real sexual connotations. And we were certainly not "having sex". Our relationship was the closeness of cousins, or quasi-siblings, nothing more. I can only say, to those who doubt or who fail to understand, that such was our logic. My cousin could play with my penis, could masturbate me and I could rub her clitoris, masturbate her, and this was not sex; "love" was not an issue. "We became more intimate the day I ran out of Vaseline. I had been lubricating my fingers with saliva instead of Vaseline for the purpose of rubbing my cousin's clitoris; that had proved adequate and less messy. But saliva had never been a satisfactory lubricant for my penis. My cousin tried it, and it hurt me more than it gave pleasure. I don't know where the notion came from because I can't remember ever having heard of such a thing, but I blurted out, "Why don't you try your mouth?" I wasn't thinking of the implications; I was just so desperate, now that I had a hard on, for her to satisfy me one way or the other. Her face was already close to my penis, and she just opened her mouth and closed it over my little penis and started moving her head up and down its shaft until I told her that I'd come. There was no semen. My penis didn't soften right away; I felt the excitement of orgasm and then her tongue and lips moving against it became more irritating than pleasant. "Now I had to do the same for her, and for the first time I got a very close look at her vulva and all the secrets it held. I got to see her pubic hair really close up, and all the pinkish things inside her pussy lips. She reminded me where to put my tongue, and in due course she shivered and had her orgasm. "From then on, that's what we did to each other. But about the same time, as my cousin noticed, I was growing up. She found a few pubic hairs, and one day she tasted something coming out of my penis when I had my orgasm: my first ejaculation, even if it was only a drop or two. Over the next months I produced more and more; but the gradualness of it meant that the question of "swallow or spit" never arose. She swallowed as a matter of course. And, in return, I paid no heed to her menstrual blood. Even, indeed, when she called me a "vampire" for consuming it. "Funnily enough, it wasn't until we were 16 (give or take a few months) that we went further. In fact, it was at that age that I saw my cousin in the nude for the first time. She had never taken off her top before; I had only seen her breasts obliquely, and her nipples only a couple of times. She hadn't wanted me to touch her breasts, and it was anyway too risky for us to be completely undressed. But on one occasion my family was away and my cousin and I were supposed to be at the library using their computers (we didn't have the Internet at home) and doing research for a history paper. This time, we were going to have oral sex in my own room for the first time, and I got completely undressed. In anticipation, I already had a hard-on when I took off my pants. I told my cousin I would pleasure her first but that she should get completely undressed too. She sat on the edge of my bed and took off her top and bra and then stood up and removed her pants. I stared at her breasts, just admiring them. She sat down and spread her legs and told me to get to work. "I knelt in front of her and tried to be more adventuresome than in the past, running my tongue as far as it would go into her vagina and sucking her labia into my mouth as well as running my tongue up and down and around her clitoris. After five or six minutes she cried out in orgasm. I looked at her vagina, and it was wide open and I had an immediate need to put my penis into it. I didn't even ask her; I couldn't resist and couldn't wait. I gently pushed her back on the bed and in a second my penis was in her vagina and we had sex for the first time. We had never thought of ourselves as lovers before; now we couldn't deny it. Indeed, that was the day that I fell in love with my cousin. This would create a problem: for we couldn't admit our love, and certainly we couldn't say or do anything that might reveal our secret sexual relationship. On the other hand, we weren't any longer free to flirt with others. Except as a means of evading denunciation. We wanted to see more of each other and more of each other's bodies; at the same time we were committed to outward observance of the stifling asexuality mandated by our church. "And still we knew nothing of birth control or pregnancy, except that we now had a problem. "Fortunately, nothing happened after that first sex. I eventually figured out how I could get condoms without actually having to ask another human being for them, from a vending machine. Anyway, there were few opportunities for vaginal sex since it meant getting fully undressed and having a private place where we could lie down, and this was normally impossible in the house of either of us. "I have to say that I am very much aware that few girls are as curious and uninhibited as my cousin was at age 12-18. This is especially true given our common religious background. But then, as you will see, we have come to reject the smirking George W. Bush-type religious conviction that we are saved, you are going to hell, ha ha. "We don't know how it happened, because we never had sex without a condom. Perhaps a condom split. Or, more likely, when I thought there was no more semen inside me and that my penis was clean and dry and we cuddled and my penis got hard and went inside her again, even though I didn't have an orgasm perhaps some sperm got to her. Or perhaps she spilled some sperm from her mouth. Suffice to say, one day she told me she'd missed her period. We thought little of it until she missed the next one. We hid the news from our families. But eventually, in month 5 or 6, the fact of her pregnancy became obvious, and we were denounced. "Our parents not only rejected us, but tried to get us prosecuted for fornication and incest and general depravity. The police and prosecutor (to their everlasting credit) weren't interested. If you do a Web search on "cousin marriage" you will find that 35 or so states allow first cousins to marry. Our state does not. And it does prosecute or otherwise punish kids who engage in underage sex, or at least force them into the psychiatric and social-work establishment for counseling and treatment. (I don't know whether the same rules apply to prosecuting for incest, but there is such a thing as "prosecutorial discretion".) We wanted none of that, although we didn't exactly want a baby either. But abortion was obviously out of the question. So, as far as my cousin was concerned, was adoption. Not to mention infanticide. But without money from our families, and given the ultimatum to "get lost" before the baby came and before the families were shamed, we had to find support elsewhere. "I had an uncle (a "half-uncle" actually) who was a notorious atheist and who for that reason was persona non grata in our family. He lived (and indeed still lives) in Illinois and has no kids of his own. There was still something of a problem since Illinois allows cousins to marry "only if they are over a certain age or cannot bear children". Kentucky, Indiana and Ohio, where he had friends and relations, were equally off limits. Eventually the problem was resolved by having us move, at age 17, to Florida and establishing legal residence in his winter vacation apartment. My aunt-by-marriage spent enough time with us to satisfy the authorities we were being looked after. Our uncle got himself named our guardian and proved to the county judge that we were expectant parents and had been "emancipated" -- kicked out really -- by our own religious fanatic parents. We lost a year of high school, but only half of that was due to the pregnancy (my cousin had to study in a program for wayward girls and I had to take support and ethics courses): the other half was due to the fact that our school back home was so awful we hadn't learned enough math or science. Even in Florida, it seems, you have to know some algebra and geometry and know how to pour chemicals into a beaker and make them bubble impressively. "Once the baby was born and once we had diplomas, my uncle offered me work in his contracting business. But I needed more money and so I joined the National Guard. Big mistake: George W. Bush made me into cannon fodder and sent me to Iraq. And, or course, left my cousin and my wife to apply for food stamps and county support. "Well, they're going to let me vote this year by non-secret fax ballot. Do I vote for the despised Dear Leader, or do I vote for the uncharismatic, idea-less, unelectable Loyal Opposition and risk retaliation for it? "I don't know how much this fits into your category of stories on sex and religion, Carol, but this is how our sex lives unfolded. (I don't, by the way, think that the Church of the Nazarene is to blame for our plight. I rather think our parents sought out that fundamentalist/Pentecostal church because it most satisfied their apocalyptic visions and their uncompromising stature against sin and "deviancy" of all kinds. Either way, we've soured on organized religion of all kinds and would rather like to bring up our daughter as a free spirit.)" ------ As I said, the story speaks for itself. No comment from me needed. 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